ME: So yes⦠time and biography⦠the organising principles of meaningā¦
Yeah, the books, films, music⦠all the media we love most are all kind of time machines.
All those podcast interviews, history documentaries, diaries by politicians, films about Bruce Springsteen or Bob Dylan⦠gallery retrospectives⦠are ways of navigating through the story of peopleās lives⦠reconstructing and tracing what led to what.
Yes. And Lifespan would take the same raw material and turn it into a shared, navigable, generative web-thing.
OK, and this is what you mean by āOpenStreetMap for time and a personal temporal Wikipediaā?
Yeah. But thereās a lot of other stuff.
What other stuff?
Thatās the question⦠and thatās why weāre having this conversation.
How do you make something that taps into and explores this kind of thinking?
Iām assuming you have some ideas about this?
Yes. And Iāve built a thing.
Do I get to see this thing?
Yes, yes. You really do. I just need to get some things out of the way firstā¦
You mean things like āhasnāt this been done before?ā
Things like that, yes.
And I think the answer is - surprisingly - ānoāā¦
Wikipedia tells you about The Beatles or JFK in isolation, but not about how they intersectā¦
ā¦and least of all with you.
But I donāt āintersectā with either of them, do I?
Well⦠we can talk about that⦠this is where the magic happens šŖ
Later parts of this conversation will explain this, when Iāve written them.
OK⦠but youāre talking about some ideas that have definitely been done before, right?
Yeah, timeline tools exist, but theyāre read-only. They present information, they donāt involve you.
HistoryPin is a bit more interactive - itās about crowdsourcing old photos - but itās just for places, and in a pretty specific way.
Err⦠Facebook?
Yeah, Facebook and the rest do hold all your ālife dataā (if you use them), but⦠well, itās very, very different. Facebook is about social networking. This isnāt that.
What about Facebook Timeline?
We could have a whole separate conversation about thisā¦
Perhaps another timeā¦
But I can imagine youāll say something aboutā¦
- Facebook optimising for interaction in the moment and for addictive social engagementā¦
- how it treats everything as a timestamped āpostāā¦
- and how the timeline feature is just a shallow chronological representation with no semantic depth?
- and⦠well⦠Facebook
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Whatās different about Lifespan is that itās not meant to be a realtime social network. Itās⦠more like an all-time reflective network.
Itās about zooming back and seeing the wood for the trees. And planting trees.
Thereās a mirror effect, where your own time bounces off shared time, and back again.
Somehow.
Weāll come back to this š
Iām going to have to take your word for itā¦
ā¦but youāve built this thing, yes?
Some of itā¦
But as a sort of (massive) conceptual sketch.
It needs a lot more thinking šØš¼āš»
Fair enough. Butā¦
ā¦where did this all come from?
Well⦠Iāve been thinking about this for bloody ages.
Itās been the thing I think about in between doing other things, like having children and jobs and stuff.
Iāve tried lots of times over the years to prototype parts of it, but hit technical walls pretty quickly⦠š·
It needs a group of specialists, and Iām a generalist.
What happened?
AI happened āØ
This year Iāve been able to fudge together a virtual, artificial group of specialists: ChatGPT, Cursor, Claudeā¦
ā¦enough to get a āhouse of cards prototypeā on its feet, stitching together lots of the ideas Iāve come up with.
House of cards? š
Yeah. It stands, but it wobbles and falls over sometimes. The point is: you can finally glimpse what it might be.
And⦠not wanting to sound like a character from a shit film, but what do you want from me ā
Thatās the important bit. A few thingsā¦.
